Thursday, March 22, 2012

Will the internet kill the development?

Take a look at this report in the Guardian of 21.03.2012 in which Deloitte suggests that the growth of internet shopping will mean that retailers will reduce their property portfolios 30% - 40% over the next five years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/20/high-street-shops-close-deloitte

The report suggests that "The high street will become full of coffee shops, building societies, kiosks and hubs to pick up stuff". Now this could mean that actually the new high street will look rather like Pontyclun now! RCT take note!

March 2012 updating email

Colleagues the following email has been sent out to all on the emailing list and the attachements can be seen as the three new posts that follow this one.

Dear Colleagues
Sorry not to have been in touch for a while but I’ve been in NZ visiting my daughter and her family for the last 7 weeks.
Since we all had to be busy submitting our objections and comments to the outline planning proposal for the new development in December things have gone a little quiet as councillors are reluctant to speak as they are concerned not to prejudice their position before the planning meeting. However it looks as though the meeting to consider the application will not now take place until after the County Council elections on 3 May. In the meantime it will be very useful if you of you who responded individually and then subsequently received a letter from RCT could respond saying that you are interested in speaking at the council meeting when the application is considered. We will hope to organise press briefings and other lobbying activities as soon as a date becomes available.
In the meantime the working group has had a number of meetings to consider further action and the minutes of the meetings are attached.
I’ll now post these minutes on the website as well so you can tell your friends where to look: http://pantvalley-newdevelopment.blogspot.co.uk/
If you wish to know more or be more involved please come back via email or ‘ring me on 01443 227996 or Margaret on 01443 229301.
All the very best
Len Arthur

March 2012 working group minutes

Meeting of the Pontyclun Residents’ Town Centre Working group

14th March2012

Present:               Ann, Claire, Paul, Marg,

Update

               Leekes

Emma Leekes is meeting the developer

Leekes have applied for planning permission to move the Garden Centre. Marg to write and ask if it is relevant to the new town centre development

               Ownership of Land

It has been confirmed that the land is part owned by Scarborough Developers and part owned by the Welsh Government following merger of Welsh Development Agency into Welsh Government

Planning Process

Marg to write to Simon Gale who has since responded and said that there is no date yet for the planning application to be presented to the Planning Committee as some issues are still being discussed

Contact with Mark Jackson

We are still waiting to hear from Mark Jackson regarding a meeting

Preparation for the Planning Committee

A number of members of the group have asked to speak at the planning committee.

It was agreed that we should produce a matrix setting out the issues we have written to the Council about and then to cross reference them with statements that support our arguments contained within documents that we have looked at.

Next Meeting

Agree to hold the next meeting at the start of May  

February 2012 working group meeting

Meeting of the Pontyclun Residents’ Town Centre Working group15th February 2012

Present:               Ann, Claire, Paul, Marg, Jay Kynch from Open spaces

Action Points

               Meeting with Kay Kinch open Spaces

Jay is a volunteer with Open Spaces and explained the role of the organisation in helping groups register publicly used land as open space. Open Spaces is informed of all amendments to Rights of Way, Greens and Commons

The group decided that the process would be of interest in the future but that at the moment we should focus on attempting to influence the planning application and not get involved yet in trying to register open space.

               Lobbying Councillors

It was agreed that we should send hard copies and personalised letters to all councillors in May

Consultation of planning application

Claire had received reply outlining the consultation process and that RCT had done more than is necessary

Planning Process

Marg to write to Jim Bailey and to request a meeting to discuss the planning application

Land ownership

Marg to contact Liz re ownership of land on which she grazes her horses

Contact with Mark Jackson

Marg to write to Mark Jackson and ask to meet .

Contact with Emma Leeke

Marg to write to ask if she has information on the planning application

Contamination of Land

Marie is following up the issue of land contamination

Next Meeting

Agree to hold the next meeting 29th February             

January 2012 working group minutes

Meeting of the Pontyclun Residents’ Town Centre Working group:  25th January 2012

Present:               Len, Ann, Claire, Paul, Marg, Marie
Action Points

            Meeting with RCT councillors

Len suggested that we should ask our local councillors if they would be prepared to meet with the group to listen to our reasons for objecting to the plan as it stands.

Len and Paul will meet with Cllr Clayton Willis to request a meeting

               Consultation of planning application

Claire to write to Jim Bailey to check whether all appropriate residents were consulted on the planning application

Objection letter

Marg to send it to all councillors

Marg to write to Jim Bailey and to request a meeting to discuss issues such as contamination

Open Space

This refers to the 2006 Commons Act. Suggested we try to register Pant Marsh

Len to get hold of the necessary forms for registering common land

Ann to set up meeting with Jay who lives in Efail Isaf and is a member of Open Spaces

Development Land

Marg to try to get in touch with Liz Sorenson  and to identify the land she uses for grazing horse

Potential contamination of Land

Marie to write to Environ , the company that has been responsible for disposing of waste form the land about potential contamination of land

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Planning response - from working group within the formal 21 days

Here is the letter that the working group will submit to RCT as a formal response to the outline planning application that has been submitted by the developers. It will meet the 21 day formal deadline but more comments will be able to be made in the new year before RCT make a planning decision. This will provide us all with more time to think about details and make futher points and possibly have another public meeting.

It is very important that individuals make a submission within the 21 days. The more that are made the more significance is attached to the responses. See the earlier posting on how to make a submission and you may wish to use this letter as a guide.

Even if you agree with the development but think it should be improved it is important that you say you object on x,y,z grounds and that these changes should be made before approval is given.


Pontyclun New Town Working Group

c/o Margaret Griffiths and            Len Arthur

6 Llantrisant Road            

Pontyclun

CF72 9DQ

Service Director Planning

Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council

Sardis House

Sardis Road

Pontypridd

CF37 1DU



Representation on Planning Application 11/1330

For the Development of the land adjacent to Cowbridge Road and the A473 between Pontyclun and Talbot Green

The applicant has provided a Design and Access statement which states that the application should result in a town centre which would be

·            Active, inclusive and safe

·            Well run

·            Environmentally sensitive

·            Well designed and built

·            Well connected

·            Thriving

·            Well served

·            Fair for everyone

The Pontyclun New Town Working Party is objecting to the application because the specific actions set out in application do not meet in several crucial respects many of the above key attributes set out by the applicant.

The Pontyclun New Town Working Party is a group of Pontyclun residents which has worked with the local community to identify their aspirations and fears for the development of this site. Two public meetings have so far been held. 340 responses to a local questionnaire have been received. Meetings have been held with the applicant, with other landowners on the site, with the Countryside Council for Wales and with RCT Council officials.

We understand that the Local Development Plan makes provision for retail development on this site. Within the community our survey indicates that there is a majority of people who would welcome increased retail and leisure activity on this site. However a very large majority of residents want a development that meets key concerns that they have. Our objection is based on the fact that the application does not sufficiently meet those concerns.

We are making this representation within the 21 days specified in the notice of application. Nevertheless as the discussion continues within the community we hope that you will be willing to receive further representations from the Working Group after the 21 day period.

1.0     Well Connected

The applicant has stated that the development should be well connected. There is strong evidence that the application does not meet this objective.

Road access from the A4119

The traffic projections provided by the applicant indicate that over 50% of the cars arriving at this development will do so from the A4119. This road, and in particular its intersection with the A473 is already heavily congested.

The attraction of further traffic through this intersection cannot be sustained without substantial gridlock which would blight this development. It would also blight other economic development opportunities within the area of Pontyclun and Talbot Green. Perhaps most significantly gridlock at this intersection would prove to be a major obstacle to economic development in the upper Ely and Rhondda valleys.

The problem of this intersection is admitted in the application. There is a reference to a strategic intention by RCT CBC to develop a grade separated intersection on this highway. This could well provide the necessary highways solution. There are however at least two problems in assuming that this solution can be met. Firstly there is the cost of £19 million which the applicant is not offering to meet. Second such an intersection would be substantial in scale and would be a major incursion into the exsting green field and settlements for which there is no planning consent and to which there would be objections.

The applicant is offering to make the existing roundabout at the intersection of the A4119 and A473 a signalled roundabout and claims that through this improvement the effect of the increased traffic would be more than mitigated. We question that such a substantial highways problem can be solved by such a simple and inexpensive solution. We ask that no planning consent is granted until the claim by the applicant to provide a solution to this problem is independently evaluated by an expert consultancy nominated by the Council but at the applicant’s expense.

Road access along the A4322 and through Pontyclun Village Centre

The applicant estimates that 30% of the traffic to the new development will be through the Pontyclun Village Centre. This road is already congested for large parts of the day. It serves a village retail centre which the Local Development Plan is committed to sustaining. It provides access to the Pontyclun Primary School and Y Pant Secondary School. The applicant provides no solution or mitigation for the increased traffic on this road.

Pedestrian access

Recent retail developments in this area have suffered massively from not providing well planned and usable pedestrian access. They have been planned solely for car access and have then suffered from road congestion and a lack of parking.

This application states an intention to provide new and well planned pedestrian access but offers no specific investment into pedestrian access. There is a map with vague sketch arrows in all directions and an admission that specific routes are yet to be identified. Within 800 metres of this development there are substantial recent settlements that need to have a pedestrian link to the development but none are specified. These settlements include Cefn yr Hendy, Tyla Garw, Southgate and Cross Inn. An encouragement to pedestrian based retailing would link the existing retail parks (Talbot Green, Tesco Extra and Glamorgan Vale) to this development; but again the assumption appears to be that the consumer moves from one site to another by car, increasing road congestion.

Cycle access

The applicant writes excitingly about an ambition to encourage a cycle culture and a modal shift from car to cycle. However no specific actions are identified which might provide safe cycle access and encourage such a modal shift.

There is support for the Sustrans proposal to use the disused rail temporarily as a cycle track pending the introduction of a working rail route to Beddau. This cycle route would be much welcomed but it is not good enough to rely on a temporary solution. Moreover this one cycle route is not sufficient to achieve the ambition of a development based on a new cycle culture. The requirement must be that the Council and the applicant work together to specify safe cycle routes to this development, and at the same time to Y Pant School, over a 5 kilometre radius. Such routes should provide safe cycle links to Pontyclun, Llanharri, Llanharan, Cefn yr Hendy, Miskin, Cross Inn, Beddau, Llantrisant and Talbot Green

2.0     Environmentally sensitive

The Applicant has the stated objective that the development should be environmentally sensitive.

Development on the Greenfield is not justified

One of the most effective ways of achieving this objective would be to constrain the development to the existing brown field (the former Purolite and Staedler factory sites) and not include the incursion into the existing Greenfield site.

We note that the application is to provide 46, 323 m2 of retail space whereas the Local Development Plan includes provision for 23,400 m2. The replacement of the 8000 m2 of the existing Leekes store does not explain the difference between these two figures. Our arithmetic is that the application is for 50% more retail space than that provided for by the LDP. If that is right then the application must be rejected for its detrimental effect on the environment and on the local highway structure. In any case environmental sensitivity requires that the green field is fully protected

Protection of the Pant Marsh and the Coed yr Hendy

The Pant Marsh and the Coed yr Hendy should be protected and made accessible so that it is natural green area  for visitors to the retail park and for local residents. We believe that it is important that the development, which is in such close proximity to Pant Marsh and Coed yr Hendy, should be developed in such a way that it will have limited impact on the marsh.

The Pant Marsh is partially protected by its SINC site status (sites of importance for nature conservation).The RTC local biodiversity plan adopted in 2000 covers the protection of priority species and priority habitats. We must do more than pay lip service to our understanding of the importance of maintaining and enhancing biodiversity. It is crucial to our quality and variety of life. Species and habitats are threatened and lost to over development and poor understanding of how we coexist. Floodplain grassland in RCT is now only a tiny fragment of the original Pant Marsh is one such fragment.

To protect and enhance this area we propose that:     

    • the New Town Development should not extend beyond the existing brown field into the Site of Important Nature Conservation;
    • the required improvements to the  highway intersection of the A4119 and A473 are not designed so as to reduce the area of the Pant Marsh.
    • the development is designed to bring the green areas into the town and facilitate walking access into the green areas.

There is much support in the community for a new supermarket to alleviate the pressure upon and provide competition to the existing Tesco store. In this respect with effective resolution of highways and environmental concerns there would be support for Phase One of the development. However there is no good reason why Phase One should take place on the green field whilst leaving the brown field vacant for a Phase Two development which is less certain to take place on the given timescale. Therefore we oppose the application for Phase One believing that a new supermarket as a Phase One development should take place on the brownfield site.

We note that the developer has provided a habitat management plan for the two areas of Pant Marsh and Coed yr Hendy. However we note that the plan does not state how the management will be financed and who will be responsible. The application should not be supported until this is agreed.

The importance of non-car access to environmental sustainability

We welcome the applicant’s commitment to achieve BREEAM excellent standards of construction as required by the Welsh Government. However, we argue that there is little purpose in reducing the carbon footprint of retail buildings if we do not make access to the retail development equally environmentally sensitive. It is for reasons of environmentally sensitivity that come back to our argument that the incentives to access this retail development by means other than cars are far too weak in the application.

We note that application is for 3000 car parking spaces. This is around 1 car parking space for every 7 m2 of retail space. Whilst the applicant states a desire to develop a modal shift away from car access the detail of the application continues to assume very high levels of car access. A recent large scale retail development around the Olympic site in east London very deliberately constrained car parking to one parking place to 25 m2 of retail space and then achieved commercial viability by investing in non-car access.

3.0     Well designed and built

We recognise that there is much in the exemplar illustrations for this outline application that would support an ambition for this development to be well designed and built. We recognise that this is a better design than in most other recent retail developments in South Wales. This is as it should be. The retail profit per m2 in this location is higher than anywhere in the UK. There is no reason at all therefore why the quality, the design and the scale of this development should not be as required by the community interest.

We welcome the illustrations of high quality materials, the design of attractive pedestrian walkways, the interesting design of public spaces. When there is a planning application for Phase 2 the applicant and the Council must not allow any of these design commitments to be sacrificed or bargained away, as so often happens.

We note that the larger stores and car parks will be between 18 and 22 metres high.  We do not feel that this is consistent with the scale of the adjacent residential and commercial buildings. This development will be significantly higher than any existing buildings. They will detrimental to the eye line from the local hills and will dominate the properties of nearby residents of the area.

The intended height of the development is designed to ensure that the 3000 car spaces can co-exist with the allocated retail space. If this development were less reliant on car access then the physical scale of the development could be much reduced.

The master plan refers to the view of the retail and industrial developments within the area from a number of high points encircling the development. In addition to Breeam we believe that the development could provide residents of apartments above the stores with roof top gardens or the roofs could be designed as green roofs. A living green roof supports wildlife, improves the view, insulates buildings and increases the lifespan of their waterproofing.

4.0     Thriving

The LDP makes provision for 23,400 m2 of extra retail space in anticipation of the extra retail demand expected from the projected extra housing area. The applicant defines the local catchment for this retail development to extend from Tonteg to Tonyrefail and Llanharan. The LDP makes provision for 4700 extra dwellings within this wider geographical area. The retail development justifies itself by the retail demand created by these extra dwellings.

In approving the LDP the Planning Inspector required that Phase 2 of this development should not be in advance of identifiable need. We therefore oppose the applicant’s objective to complete Phase 2 by 2016. A thriving development requires an assurance that the extra demand is in place and this requires evidence that housing suppliers can take up the extra housing provision by this date. The national context for housing developers is a very difficult. Because there continues to be a fear of falling house prices, mortgage providers continue to require historically high deposit to value ratios. The entry of first time buyers into the housing market continues to be at an historic low and this is stagnating all other parts of the housing market. The LDP correctly is based on a projection of housing need but for the foreseeable future demand is unlikely to equate with need.

Because Phase 2 should be deferred until such time that the extra local demand is in place through new housing, the case for locating local Phase 1 on the Brownfield site is all the stronger.

If Phase 2 were to take place in advance of new local demand then the incentive would be to market this development over an ever wider area, diminish demand for other retail centres and attract increased traffic flows along the M4 and increase the traffic congestion on the A4119. This was not the objective of the LDP not was it the intention of the Planning Inspector and the Welsh Government in approving the LDP

5.0     Active, inclusive and safe

The application states that it will meet the objective of being active, inclusive and safe. To do this the development needs to meet the aspirations of all age groups within the community. The master plan includes a cinema and from our survey 60% would like a cinema in the area.

However, 34 per cent of respondents said that they would like to see an arts centre or theatre developed. Forty four per cent would like to see a community centre developed on the site.

The plan does not seek to provide facilities (other than a cinema) that residents of established towns would expect to have use of, for example a theatre, an arts centre, a youth centre, purpose built meeting rooms for community activities.

The master plan includes a civic office and yet we have been informed by councillors and planners that RCT Council does not have the finances to open a civic office on this development site. Should this plan be accepted it is likely that this area would be either left derelict or more likely developed for further retail or office units. 

We believe that if this plan is to proceed and is to be considered to provide an inclusive development, that the development of an arts centre, with theatre and meeting rooms should be part of the developer’s contribution to public life in the area.

The Design and Access statement suggests that there are sufficient community facilities in the area. Talbot Green has one rather old community centre and community meeting rooms in Pontyclun are always oversubscribed; there is a local demand for extra community facilities.

6.0     Fair for everyone

The plan states that a sustainable town centre should be fair to everyone and yet this plan could have devastating effects on the villages of Talbot Green and Pontyclun.

The design and access statement makes no mention of the impact of the new retail development on the two village centres. We are going through a severe recession and although the retail assessment refers to two thriving villages, this is far from the truth. We can only assume that the developers would be very wary of making any assertions about the positive impact of the development on the village centres and it is not in their interests to list the negative impacts.

The LDP designates Pontyclun as a ‘smaller settlement providing a limited range of services to meet local needs’’. It is important that this new development does not undermine the ambition set for Pontyclun in the LDP.

The scale of Pontyclun is such that people can expect to meet friends and acquaintances as they use the village centre. There is well researched evidence that the local networks of social relationships sustained by such a village environment is the basis of achieving good health and wellbeing and this is a stated aim of the Local Development Plan. Without the local shops this will not happen.

In order that the new development enhances Pontyclun village we believe that the communities of Pontyclun and Talbot Green should benefit from a percentage of the increase in value of the site. The value of the land being used for this development has been hugely increased  by its inclusion within the LDP as prime development land for a retail park. A high percentage of this increase in value should be ploughed back into mitigating the negative effect of this development on local communities. This would need to be discussed with the two communities of Pontyclun and Talbot Green.

Appendices

Appendix 1:   Questionnaire


Appendix 1

Proposed New Town Centre – Community Questionnaire

We would be most grateful if you could give your feedback on the proposed new town centre, simply complete the form below by placing in a tick in the relevant boxes.  Your feedback will be used to help shape the proposed development to the benefit of the local community.

1. Are you aware of the proposed New Town Centre proposals for the Pontyclun, Talbot Green and Llantrisant areas?

Yes
No


2. What facilities would you like in the Pontyclun/Talbot Green/Llantrisant areas?

Yes
No

Yes
No

More bars & restaurants


More high street shops



Hotel


Offices



Cinema


Supermarket



Housing


Footpaths



Cycle ways


Open spaces



Parks


Theatre



Outdoor leisure facilities


Community centre



Indoor leisure facilities


Arts centre




3. Would you be concerned about any of the following should the proposed development go ahead?

Yes
No

Increased traffic



Parking in and around residential areas



Increase in crime



Reduction in house prices



Loss of the village centre



Empty shops in Pontyclun and Talbot Green



Litter, noise and general nuisance



Environmental damage to current green areas



Flooding



Changing the character of the villages



Other (use this space to add any other concerns)


4. On a scale of 1 – 10 (with one being strongly against, 10 being strongly for) are you for or against the proposals
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

5. In which area do you live?
Pontyclun

Llantrisant


Talbot Green

Llanharran


Llanharry

Pencoed


Other




6. Age Group
Under 18

18 - 25


25 - 35

35 - 50


50 – 65

Over 65


7. Would you like to be kept informed of the progress of the community action group?
Yes
No
If yes, please provide an email address (we are sorry but we are unable to keep in touch by post etc due to costs).............................................................................................................................